Wednesday, December 3, 2008
Some fire engines – those used to fight wildland fires – do carry portable pumps. In this situation, however, with so much fire threatening the area, the leadership on the ground made the decision to move the engines to locations where water was available and where the engines were needed just as badly. The floating pumps are not meant to fight the volume of fire that existed in this incident.
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Daniel has left a new comment on your post "Comments":
Some of the residents reported low water pressure or none at all in some areas leading to firefighters being unable to defend homes from wind driven embers and flames. With that said, my question is... do all OCFA fire apparatus carry portable pumps for drafting operations from such places as residential pool sources? If so, were these items put to use during the complex fire and how well did they perform? It would seem that a simple portable floating pump would allow for a quick defensive attack with a 1 1/2 handline while a back-up water source is obtained, however, knowing where these sources are in the community may be a bit problematic as well.
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exmokina has left a new comment on your post "Comments":
Daniel,'had nothing to do w/ residential water usage. The hydrant systems weren't working, rendering the Fire department impotant. (They didn't even try to fight fires in my nieghborhood). Also a pump broke and by the time a replacement arrived from Laguna, it was too late. The City council and YL water district have some explaining to do. That's probably why the water Board has hired a fancy PR firmed to "manage" the publicity. Is this what our taxes are for?
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trapport has left a new comment on your post "Comments":
There is not enough fire equipment in Yorba Linda. 3 full time fire engines staffed with 3 firefighters each (some cities have 4) and 1 paramedic van. This is not adequate for anything but the mildest incident. The city and OCFA need to work together to increase staffing on a regular, full time basis. Time for the city council to step up and demand more coverage even though it would cost more money. Look at Anaheim, there have many more stations that Yorba Linda does. The only reason Yorba Linda had such a good response to the train wreck on Esperanza several years ago is because a large amount of fire units and ambulances were doing a drill at Brea Community hospital and were able to respond en masse to the train wreck. What will happen at the next major incident?
Daniel has left a new comment on your post "Comments":
Some of the residents reported low water pressure or none at all in some areas leading to firefighters being unable to defend homes from wind driven embers and flames. With that said, my question is... do all OCFA fire apparatus carry portable pumps for drafting operations from such places as residential pool sources? If so, were these items put to use during the complex fire and how well did they perform? It would seem that a simple portable floating pump would allow for a quick defensive attack with a 1 1/2 handline while a back-up water source is obtained, however, knowing where these sources are in the community may be a bit problematic as well.
(This post was inadvertently deleted and is re-posted here verbatim.)
exmokina has left a new comment on your post "Comments":
Daniel,'had nothing to do w/ residential water usage. The hydrant systems weren't working, rendering the Fire department impotant. (They didn't even try to fight fires in my nieghborhood). Also a pump broke and by the time a replacement arrived from Laguna, it was too late. The City council and YL water district have some explaining to do. That's probably why the water Board has hired a fancy PR firmed to "manage" the publicity. Is this what our taxes are for?
(This post was inadvertently deleted and is reposted here vertabim.)
trapport has left a new comment on your post "Comments":
There is not enough fire equipment in Yorba Linda. 3 full time fire engines staffed with 3 firefighters each (some cities have 4) and 1 paramedic van. This is not adequate for anything but the mildest incident. The city and OCFA need to work together to increase staffing on a regular, full time basis. Time for the city council to step up and demand more coverage even though it would cost more money. Look at Anaheim, there have many more stations that Yorba Linda does. The only reason Yorba Linda had such a good response to the train wreck on Esperanza several years ago is because a large amount of fire units and ambulances were doing a drill at Brea Community hospital and were able to respond en masse to the train wreck. What will happen at the next major incident?
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